can you publish my questions in response to Ian Cuthbert's post whichI have read with interest.
1, Why if theWUKF or WUKO is what you say it is why do 3 former instructors chose to stay with the EKF surley if you cant convince them then you can expect to convince us.???
2, why does KE slag of the EKF on there site but the EKF saying nothing on there about KE???
When you dont see rugby union slagging off rugby league. As they are proffesionally run
3, why doKE not publish ther AGM minutes?
4, why doKE not publish its "elected" BOD?
5, Why do the WKF have 29.1. if we trust what you say then only England inforces it? if thats the case then why do they have it in the first place?
6, why do you feel the need to slag of the EKF and WKF if the WUKF is so much better?? This will be seen as un-proffesional.
7, what is your possition if the WKF gets into the olympics.
There is no place for politics in sport. soon there will be no one left in karate for the polititians to fight over.
Interested to see the comment on my letter and take opportunity to further the conversation.
I can assure FC that Alex Sell was at the Taekwondo selections with his father.
I can also advise that according to the WKF they consider Taekwondo can be compared with Ten Pin Bowling in otherwise it is a completely different sport. When I heard this I almost fell off my chair with laughter. Are they all barking mad ??
Taekwondo must surely be the sport that has kept Karate out of the Olympics over the last decade or so.
Karate skills are directly transferrable to Taekwondo hence so many EKF and KE athletes attended. Karate skills would not seem to have much bearing on ten pin bowling , at least not the wayI practice my karate.
On top of this, surely the very fact that EKF athletes were rubbing shoulders with non EKF Karateka should have been enough to get the EKF `internet thought police` fairly hysterical,I would have thought judging by past events.
Meanwhile I was at Karate England's squad training yesterday at Loughborough. Spectators welcome by the way !!!!
KE will be sending a squad of 22 to the WUKF European Senior Championships in Portugal.
We were also pleased to welcome back John Anderson (father and son) ,Glen Middleton and Trevor Justin and their excellent squad of fighters. John junior will be travelling to Portugal with us.
Other faces returning back to Shikon and KE were Mitchell Roberts and Hollie Roberts formerly of the EKF Kata squad (they both took Gold in the WKF Championships in Copenhagen last year) but are now looking forward to the WUKF World Junior Championships in Brazil in July.
I can hear the jeers of EKF people claiming this and that about standards between WKF and WUKF but the loudest shouts seem to come from people who have never been to either organisation's events .
Having been to over 20 WKF events over the last 15 years and having been to the last 4 WUKF events ,I can say that the top fighters at WUKF are as good as I've seen anywhere. Not surprising really as so many of them actually are WKF members as well. We even had the Danish WKF President take part in the veterans in Ukraine last year!!!
As far as size of event is concerned the WUKF Worlds in Italy in 2008 had 12 tatamis and 1500 entries . I had never seen anything so huge , you couldn't find a seat in the house on the finals day. The only comparable event was the WKF worlds in Munich in 2000 and maybe Madrid.
The real question people should be asking is :- `if WKF is so great , why are they implementing 21.9 so vehemently?? Who are they scared of ?????`
From: Fenton Carnaby
It was an interesting letter sent in by Ian Cuthbert of Shikon on the EKF Squad Members choosing to attend Taekwondo selections rather than attending the squad training in Rippon.
Obviously Ian will have a bias towards KE against the EKF and I don't always agree with his views but on this occasion I have to say he is absolutely 100% correct and yet again the Board of Directors must give an explanation as to why they let this happen.
From the athletes point of view with everything that has been happening this past year there is a part of me understands why they are abandoning the EKF, nevertheless it should not have been allowed to take place.
For those unaware several EKF Squad members decided to try their hand at Taekwondo including Davin Pack, Tom Canham, Gavin Bailey, Natalie Williams and Jonathan Mottram. It was the worst kept secret so far this year. I am not certain Alex Sell was there on that day as stated by Ian, I'm fairly sure I saw him in Rippon.
The serious issue which must be addressed is why they chose not to attend squad training, especially as they have been selected for the EKF team to travel to Greece very shortly. For me it brings into question their loyalty to the squad and now whether their positions on that squad should be reviewed, especially the two who are in coaching positions. This could mean our squad maybe slightly weaker but surely loyalty to theEKF is far more important.
If it comes to light the Board or the National Coach were fully aware of their attendance and gave their blessing then that raises another more serious issue, as highlighted by Ian Cuthbert.
One final question which is certainly relevant relates to the published 'Squad list' which was updated on the 25th February. We see the red 'A' next to a few absentees noticeably Reece Taylor and Rachel Newey who if I'm not mistaken have just returned from representing the EKF in Spain and would, justifiably, deserve a rest period. But what really jumps out is that not one of our EKF Taekwondo triallists are marked as absent from squad. WHY?
Lots and lots of questions of this EKF board but sadly no answers, is anybody actually in charge.
first time I have looked at your website and glad to see other people taking an interest in the apparent hypocrisy going on at the EKF.
Something not mentioned was the fact that half the EKF squad went to the selections , recently , for the National Taekwondo team for 2012 including John Mottram and Alex Sell (Alex being the son of the Debbie Sell who appears to be the head of the EKF internet `police force`).
My point is (and its one I have raised with Carl Lindley the EKF Chairman) how can the EKF discipline its members for going to non-EKF events when it allows its own squad members to go for try outs with the very World Body that helps exclude Karate from the Olympics?
The fact that Taekwondo are rapidly changing their rules to match the WKFcould be an extremely clever way of excluding WKF karate from the Olympics permanently. Yet here we have the EKF supporting that same group.
Madness on their part or is it just stupidity??
Personally I blame the EKF members for the continuing chaos , so long as they stay within the EKF it will continue to exist as it is. Anyone strong enough to change things has already left in my opinion.
Meanwhile as Shikon Head Coach I have to say that being in the new Karate England and going to WUKF events over the past three years has been a breath of fresh air , the result for us has been increased membership and a larger than ever squad ( we recently took 75 competitors to the British Open at K2).
No restrictions, back to solid traditional shubo sanbon (or Ippon if you prefer) , Kata in different styles instead of all lumped in together and best of all team Kumite rotation, which is possibly the most exciting format I have ever seen at a Karate competition.
Good luck with the web site.