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2nd Karate Unification
Tuesday, 20 December 2011 09:19

Dear Readers

The statement below, has been posted on some of the Karate groups web sites' that have been involved in talks regarding Karate Unification.

 'A second meeting of four of the major Karate groups in England was held on 16th December at the offices of the Sport & Recreation Alliance in London, hosted by the Alliance's chief executive Mr Tim Lamb.

The purpose of the meeting was to discuss the possibility of creating a more unified governace structure for the sport of Karate in England for the benifits of all participants.

 There was a constructive discussion on how the potential obstacles to unification might be overcome and it was agreed to meet again in the New Year to move the dicussion forward'

Not much to go on but it looks positive. If you would like to post your views. I'm sure readers out there would like to know your thoughts on these talks, as it concerns all Karate Ka.

Regards

Ed

 
More Karate Unification Info
Wednesday, 23 November 2011 10:16

Copied from AMA's website, only news out there at this moment in time on the Karate Unification talks:

Dear AMA Members

Since the Karate Unification talks have started again and we published that the AMA had been involved in this process, our office has been overwhelmed with calls regarding this matter.

All we are able to publish at this stage is a brief statement from our General Secretary below:

The 2nd Karate Unification meeting will be on 16th December in London at the SRA office's. Peter Allen & Mark Drake will be attending on behalf of the AMA.

The unification process has started, a new governing body structure will be discussed and hopfully agreed by the Karate groups present. If agreed this will then be put to Sport England and hopefully accepted by them. A date for unification would then be given to our members.

 It would be most welcome and long overdue for all our members. One of the many reasons, how the AMA clubs would benifit from this unification process, is that they would be able to work towards and achieve Sport Englands clubmark, which would then form part of our continual development in coaching and good practice within the AMA. 

 A report will follow this meeting to our AMA members

Regards

AMA Admin

 

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Thursday, 17 November 2011 17:15

Dear AMA Members

Since the Karate Unification talks have started again and we published that the AMA had been involved in this process, our office has been overwhelmed with calls regarding this matter.

All we are able to publish at this stage is a brief statement from our General Secretary below:

The 2nd Karate Unification meeting will be on 16th December in London at the SRA office's. Peter Allen & Mark Drake will be attending on behalf of the AMA.

The unification process has started, a new governing body structure will be discussed and hopfully agreed by the Karate groups present. If agreed this will then be put to Sport England and hopefully accepted by them. A date for unification would then be given to our members.

 It would be most welcome and long overdue for all our members. One of the many reasons, how the AMA clubs would benifit from this unification process is, that they would be able to work towards and achieve Sport Englands clubmark, which would then form part of our continual development in coaching and good practice within the AMA. 

 A report will follow this meeting to our AMA members

Regards

AMA Admin

 

 

 

2nd Karate Unification Meeting PDF Print E-mail

 

Dear AMA Members

Since the Karate Unification talks have started again and we published that the AMA had been involved in this process, our office has been overwhelmed with calls regarding this matter.

All we are able to publish at this stage is a brief statement from our General Secretary below:

The 2nd Karate Unification meeting will be on 16th December in London at the SRA office's. Peter Allen & Mark Drake will be attending on behalf of the AMA.

The unification process has started, a new governing body structure will be discussed and hopfully agreed by the Karate groups present. If agreed this will then be put to Sport England and hopefully accepted by them. A date for unification would then be given to our members.

 It would be most welcome and long overdue for all our members. One of the many reasons, how the AMA clubs would benifit from this unification process is, that they would be able to work towards and achieve Sport Englands clubmark, which would then form part of our continual development in coaching and good practice within the AMA. 

 A report will follow this meeting to our AMA members

Regards

AMA Admin

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Written by Admin   
Thursday, 17 November 2011 17:15

Dear AMA Members

Since the Karate Unification talks have started again and we published that the AMA had been involved in this process, our office has been overwhelmed with calls regarding this matter.

All we are able to publish at this stage is a brief statement from our General Secretary below:

The 2nd Karate Unification meeting will be on 16th December in London at the SRA office's. Peter Allen & Mark Drake will be attending on behalf of the AMA.

The unification process has started, a new governing body structure will be discussed and hopfully agreed by the Karate groups present. If agreed this will then be put to Sport England and hopefully accepted by them. A date for unification would then be given to our members.

 It would be most welcome and long overdue for all our members. One of the many reasons, how the AMA clubs would benifit from this unification process is, that they would be able to work towards and achieve Sport Englands clubmark, which would then form part of our continual development in coaching and good practice within the AMA. 

 A report will follow this meeting to our AMA members

Regards

AMA Admin

Written by Admin
  
Thursday, 17 November 2011 17:15

Dear AMA Members

Since the Karate Unification talks have started again and we published that the AMA had been involved in this process, our office has been overwhelmed with calls regarding this matter.

All we are able to publish at this stage is a brief statement from our General Secretary below:

The 2nd Karate Unification meeting will be on 16th December in London at the SRA office's. Peter Allen & Mark Drake will be attending on behalf of the AMA.

The unification process has started, a new governing body structure will be discussed and hopfully agreed by the Karate groups present. If agreed this will then be put to Sport England and hopefully accepted by them. A date for unification would then be given to our members.

 It would be most welcome and long overdue for all our members. One of the many reasons, how the AMA clubs would benifit from this unification process is, that they would be able to work towards and achieve Sport Englands clubmark, which would then form part of our continual development in coaching and good practice within the AMA. 

 A report will follow this meeting to our AMA members

Regards

AMA Admin

 

2nd Karate Unification Meeting PDF Print E-mail

 

Written by Admin   
Thursday, 17 November 2011 17:15

Dear AMA Members

Since the Karate Unification talks have started again and we published that the AMA had been involved in this process, our office has been overwhelmed with calls regarding this matter.

All we are able to publish at this stage is a brief statement from our General Secretary below:

The 2nd Karate Unification meeting will be on 16th December in London at the SRA office's. Peter Allen & Mark Drake will be attending on behalf of the AMA.

The unification process has started, a new governing body structure will be discussed and hopfully agreed by the Karate groups present. If agreed this will then be put to Sport England and hopefully accepted by them. A date for unification would then be given to our members.

 It would be most welcome and long overdue for all our members. One of the many reasons, how the AMA clubs would benifit from this unification process is, that they would be able to work towards and achieve Sport Englands clubmark, which would then form part of our continual development in coaching and good practice within the AMA. 

 A report will follow this meeting to our AMA members

Regards

AMA Admin

 

 

 

 

 
KARATE UNIFICATION
Monday, 14 November 2011 15:45

Dear Readers

It appears that the Karate Unification meeting went ahead on 28th October at the SRA office's in London. No official statement has been posted yet, but the word is that all the groups identified in a previous report agreed to move forward towards unification.

The word out there is that the groups name is still to be decided but will form something like a council of associations in membership. I have no reports of SE involvement in this process at this time, but have found out that they are in favour of the development of this new Governing body.

It doe's seem to take a while to get the information out to the people that really matter which are the members of those respected groups. I've seen a little info on certain web site's but not really any meat on the bones so to speak. Get a move on please, we all want to know what's going on? Lets hope for an early Christmas Present under our tree 'Unification'

Hopefully they will get it right this time, the EKA wishes them well in their process.

Kindest regards

Ed

 
Karate Unification Meeting 28th October 2011
Wednesday, 26 October 2011 16:11

Karate Unification Meeting on 28th October 2011.

Four main groups have been invited to attend a Karate Unification Meeting in London at the Sport & Recreation Alliance office's. This is a working group to move forward towards recognition by Sport England as the official Governing body for Karate in England.

The invited groups are: AMA, KE, FEKO & EKF.

A positive approach by these groups is needed as a way forward for English Karate to unify.

 
Kenyu Kai now members of WUKF
Monday, 11 July 2011 19:16

Kenyukai Karate Association are now full members of the World Union of Karate Federations. Congratulations to them on joining WUKF.

I'm sure their members will see a difference in belonging to a body that cares for grassroots Karate-Ka in England.

Regards

Ed

 
WUKF or WKF?
Friday, 03 June 2011 10:56

Dear Ed

I've just returned from the WUKF championships in Italy, where my association the AMA along with KE, SKU and Shikon competed. All these English groups had an excellent time and had good results.

While chatting as you do to other Presidents, Coaches and competitors the feeling between everyone is that of a very friendly atmosphere, no looking over your shoulder as groups and clubs seems to do in the English Karate Federation and WKF and most certaily not being asked to take photograph's of people attending who should'nt be there (EKF what's that all about?)

The standard was excellent, as good, if not better than the WKF. The whole of the WUKF board and officials are open and transparent and approachable. Again unlike the WKF and certainly the EKF board.

It's our first World Championships as a direct member and I would recommend this body to anyone. I base my views on having been to the WKF comps and seen the standard. AMA students have won medals at the WKF level and yet on this occasion one individual who has a WKF silver in Kata just missed out on the medals in Italy. His quote was 'Excellent Standard' as good if not better than what I've competed at in the WKF.

I've also read the article 'Karate in England' 'What Problem' on your home page and would agree with everything the author is saying. We have no chance of getting into the Olympics with the WKF but may do with the WUKF. The English Karate Federation blindly follow the WKF mandate (21.9). The EKF will have similar failings in trying to get recognition from Sport England.

A group in Italy with National players in Denmark who where members of the WKF via the Danish Federation left WKF at the weekend and joined WUKF. This is happening all over the World, WUKF in numbers are second to WKF. As time goes on I'm sure this will change.

WUKF is all about inclusion by everyone from grassroots clubs and upwards.

Perhaps it's time for all the English Karate clubs in the EKF to test the water and change to WUKF, it's better, less hassle and you have the freedom to enter comps and do as you want. It's a breath of fresh air. If I had know it was going to be as good as this in 2007 when the EKF formed then I would not have joined the EKF at that time.

If you don't like what WUKF have to offer you can always switch back. In WUKF you can belong to both or any other World bodies if you so wish. It's WKF that don't allow you to be a member of anyone other than them. Crazy rule I know but that's their politics I'm afraid.

In closing Congratulations to all the English groups that attended the WUKF championships in Italy, good results excellent company and good to see old friends again.

Special thanks to the Spectators that attended from the AMA, congratulations to Darren Snell on his Silver & John Gillespie on his Bronze along with excellent performances from the rest of the AMA squad.

Roll on the Children's & Jnr Europeans in Hungary in October and the Snr Europeans & Vets next April in Scotland.

Regards

Peter Allen

AMA Karate

 

 

 

 
Karate in England - problem what problem?
Monday, 23 May 2011 21:21
Dear Editor,
 
About 40yrs ago I entered my first dojo, just to try this new fad, I stayed there for over 20yrs.  English karate was so simple then, there were no politics or money involved just a group of people enjoying karate for what it is and more importantly along the way making long lasting friendships.
 
I actively encouraged my own children to join, they quickly became far better than me, they entered competitions, we travelled the country training with a whole host of instructors from a variety of backgrounds and from different associations. This was never a problem and I believe this experience made my children far better karateka and just as I did years before they made friends with others from across England.
 
If we believe all that has been reported these past few years, and from conversations I have had with others it's easy to conclude karate here in England is more divided than at any time in its' history and perhaps the time has come for those in charge to take a long look in the mirror, just when are you going to make some attempt to unite this great sport, or is there an underlying reason as to why you do not want this unification.
 
In the last couple of days I have done some reading, searched a number of web-sites, made a few phone calls and sent out some e-mails to try to find out some of the background to todays problems, I was actually quite shocked at the number of people who seemed to know the problem but were afraid to speak out for fear of retribution, is this really what English karate has become.
 
I read through the EKF Articles, ie the rules they abide by or should I correct this by saying the rules they are supposed to abide by, this would be a far more accurate view.   It would be a good exercise for all your readers to do they would find it enlightening but as I did quite disturbing.
 
An interesting Article is Art 8 which mentions "compliance with principles set forth in the Olympic Charter", there are several references to this Charter, but I wonder if your readers have ever read the Olympic Charter  For any reader wishing to it's easily found in Google.
 
Consider this, members of the EKF have been beaten into submission by a rule which almost everybody I have spoken with or contacted believes is immoral or unworkable plus a few adjectives I dare not repeat, that rule, if you haven't guessed is Rule 21.9 which stops all members from having sporting relations with, as described by the WKF, "dissident groups", to you and me not a member.  I was shocked to hear of the 'punishments' dished out by the EKF Board for not complying with this rule.
 
So how does this rule fit in with the EKF philosophy of complying with the Olympic Charter, simple it doesn't.  The Charter states quite clearly " The practise of sport is a human right.  Every individual must have the possibility of practising sport, without discrimination of any kind and in the Olympic spirit, which requires mutual understanding with a spirit of friendship, solidarity and fair play."  The Charter goes on to say "Any form of discrimination with regard to a country or a person on grounds of race, religion, politics, gender or otherwise is incompatible with belonging to the Olympic Movement".
 
It seems for a number of years people have been encouraged to join the EKF because the WKF is the only body recognised by the IOC, I am starting to think that recognition is for the wrong reason as Rule 21.9 flies in the face of the Olympic ideals, this means there is absolutely no chance of karate being an Olympic sport until there is a major change of attitude and direction from those in charge.  The Advertising Standards Agency needs to be made aware of the mis-selling of karate.
 
It's interesting the new board were elected just last week, or should that be a re-cycled board as there appears to be one 'new' face, worryingly the re-election of all of these people means the status quo remains and there is unlikely to be any change of policy or of direction whatsoever.
 
I would like to finish by pointing out exactly what I believe is wrong with the EKF, and this board has to take full responsibility and should for the integrity of the EKF come clean and explain their actions of the past couple of years, especially the figure head of the board, the President, who with his back-ground should be a man beyond all reproach.
 
Going back to the Articles..... Art 16.1 "Member Associations, and individual persons, affiliated to the EKF shall undertake to comply with Statutory Norms, Rules and Regulations and all provisions issued by the EKF Board"
 
Art 44.3  "The Member Associations are responsible before the EKF of the actions of the associations, clubs and individuals that belong to them, as well as of the compliance of all of their components within the Statutes of the EKF"
 
Art 44.9  "Member Associations and their members are prohibited from having sporting relationships with these dissenting organisations, and with organisations not recognised by the EKF, nor with an association of the EKF which Member Association is suspended"      (Olympic Charter?)
 
Keeping these Articles in mind  let me look at an issue which has the President right at its heart and the reason I have picked him out as at fault. 
 
At last years AGM the President, as he is required to do, made his address to the Members and in his report he said this "The EKF has, over the past year, been in conflict with some of its members and some heads of associations over issues like Child Protection and WKF rules. This is not pleasant for anyone but I suppose it is part of the collective learning that we all have to achieve.  This is neither personal nor unfair, since the standards the Board sets must be the bench-mark for all of us"   
 
There it is straight from the President, the Board is the bench-mark for all of us.
 
He further went on, and this is really where the personal and unfair raises its head as well as setting the poor bench-mark for all of us,  " My Vice-President, Mike Dinsdale, whose hard work and dedication has led to much of our success, has felt it necessary to resign after a breach of rules by one of his students.  I regrettably accepted his decision"
 
I have been sent copies of exactly what happened in this instance and I find the Presidents report on this to be slightly misleading.  He said "resigned after a breach of rules by ONE of his students".  The actual number of students was 17, all from the same club in the North East, not one student.  What was the outcome of this Associations breach of Rule 21.9, absolutely nothing whatsoever, they were 'let off'.
 
What is also interesting about this Association at that time is they only declared 17 members for registration to the EKF, which means one of two things, either it was the whole of this Association or its head withheld member numbers from the EKF to reduce their costs.  What makes this even worse for both the Association and the President can be found in his 2009 report to the AGM, whilst discussing recognition by Sport England the President said this "It is imperative that all karateka are licensed by their associations, otherwise we cannot verify our exact members in our negotiations with Sport England and we are starved of the funding necessary to provide all the services we are trying to deliver to our members".
 
The question has to be were 17 the total number of this association therefore the whole association was in breach of Rule 21.9 or did the head of the association deliberately withhold member numbers from the EKF, do not forget the head of this association was the Vice-President  and the WKF Rep, how can this behaviour and his actions be simply ignored, remember the Board are the bench-mark for standards.   
 
If we move this on just one year we get a sense of deja vu.  The very same club, the very same association did exactly the same thing again and the outcome seems to be exactly the same, there cannot be much more room under the carpet.
 
This association entered a competition, the EKA Championships, published their attendance and the same as the previous year quickly removed the information from their own web-site.  How can our 'bench-mark' board ignore this, again, the members, especially those who have been the victims of the disciplinary procedure for the same offence deserve a full, detailed explanation or an apology and their memberships re-instated or any fines re-paid.
 
There was a suggestion the organiser of the EKA Championships mislead people that it was alright to enter this competition, but there are two main reasons as to why this does not hold water.  Firstly, in March 2010 the EKF put out a statement on its own web-site, it says "The Board of the EKF do not recognise the EKA as it is not a member of the EKF, it therefore follows that the EKF does not recognise the forthcoming EKA Championships".  "The EKA Championships is therefore NOT an EKF authorised event and the advice from the EKF Board is NOT to have sporting relations with non-EKF members"
 
This statement is explicit enough to members that they cannot attend the EKA events, especially as it came directly from the Board and if I'm not mistaken the Vice-President is an integral part of the Board, or he was at that time.  I have also read the entry forms for this event and they too are crystal clear, this was an event open to anyone and everyone without karate politics involved, if this wasn't clear enough it also stated they would be held under WUKF rules....mislead, really.
 
In a letter here on your web-site early last year about the Malta event I also read a quote from the Vice-President, he made it quite clear it was the EKF license holders responsibility to ensure any competition was EKF approved, no excuses.  But what we can see here is his own Association completely ignored the rule and entered the events without any repercussions or even a thought of disciplinary action from his fellow board members......this is the bench-mark?
 
One final quote from the President, this comes from a letter he sent to all heads of associations back in December of 2009.  This statement is very much the reason why I have singled him out, and he must answer to the membership for his actions (or non-actions), more importantly he must implement the rules and regulations he clearly defends time and again in his words and statements.
 
He said this  "We have no choice but to uphold the rules of the WKF and the Board has a duty to our members to that end. The argument that another country does not apply the rules so strictly is like telling a police officer who has stopped you for drink-driving that they always let you off for the same offence when you drive in Bolivia or Uganda"
 
Interesting analogy, as here we have a police officer letting one of his friends off for drink-driving on two occasions.  Mr President you have no choice but to uphold the rules, as you said you are the bench-mark for standards, if you cannot or will not uphold the rules then perhaps you should consider your position, it would be untenable.
 
My apologies,Editor, for going on but this is such an important time for all of English karate, I notice the National Squad failed to produce the goods, not for the first time recently, at a major event.  I am absolutely convinced this is because of the divided English karate, far too many of the best competitors are now in alternative organisations.
 
What is so needed is a coming together of our associations under one banner, hopefully one without the obvious hypocrisy and duplicity.
 
Best wishes,
Alan Lucas         
 
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